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Oculus 2 Ready Laptop
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- Feb 10, 2021
Just joined this astonishing community, this is my offset post!
I’yard willing to buy a “VR ready” laptop, I would like to continue the budget nether 2500 euro.
I own an Oculus 2, my first VR, I love it!
My expectations are that I want plain to be able to play virtually of the “HEAVY” and “LATEST” VR games available on PC on the different platforms (Half-Life Alyx, Falcon Age, Resident Evil, Project Cars and so on) probably i miss many other games..
I will be mainly using
(Virtual Desktop is also an option but my wifi can exist a problem!)
I’1000 in Europe so I would like to buy the laptop in EU to avoid custom and import fees.
I’ve experience in the by assembling desktop, and
my fear is to spend lot of money and have incompatibilities issues (CPU,GPU,USBs and so on..)
I won’t be playing PC games without VR, this will be exclusively used for the VR, so if I’ve issues information technology’s going to be a disaster!
I’m finding very hard to sympathise what to buy, for example I idea to option what i consider at the acme in the market, eg
Alienware m17 R4
or similar, just and then I found out there may be incompatibilities issues with the GeForce RTX™ 3070/3080 series because of the lack of USB within the graphic card itself, oculus team itself replied to many users that this bill of fare may be not yet fully supported.
Likewise I will get-go with Oculus2 but i would like to purchase something that would permit me to upgrade to a amend VR in the future.
Have yous guys any laptop to suggest, what can be the all-time choice here? I desire to be certain information technology will 100% works with Oculus 2 and nigh of the VR on the market.
I’ve been looking on VR ready laptops from Oculus website, but at that place are no preset configuration (e.g. falcon northwest), I all the same demand to decide the hardware and I’m really confused about it.
PS: The reason i choose a laptop instead of a desktop is that i’ve no space to play with the VR in any of the room I can put the Desktop in and as said the wifi may be not enough stiff to allow play me through virtual desktop..
Thanks a lot
- Jul xiii, 2002
As far as upgrading to hereafter headsets, currently you would need a displayport or mini-displayport connexion to handle the Reverb G2 or Alphabetize. It’s tough to say what futurity versions of those headsets will require.
So in curt, get a laptop that has a 3080 and a USB three.1 Gen 2 capable port along with a displayport port and you should be skillful to go for the next while.
- Nov 12, 2012
I bought a $72 wifi half dozen router and only use it for the Oculus Quest two and it works flawlessly for PC VR. Even if you couldn’t get information technology working it’s a very pocket-sized amount of money compared to what you would spend on a laptop. The router is really less expensive than the official Oculus link cable.
- Jan eighteen, 2021
- Apr 7, 2005
Bought a wifi 6 router and it is as smoothen as butter. The wifi 6 router but has my pc and quest ii connected. Even just my phone connecting can cause stutter.
A router is worth the cost of admission to vr with a quest 2. Image quality wise it blows abroad all the other head sets i’ve ever used and not getting tangled in a cable or having it pulling on your head is worth it.
Hell my calculator and router are in my office and I play in the kitchen. I can be watching idiot box in the living room. Catch my quest off the counter and jump into steam vr with out ever touching my pc.
- Jan eighteen, 2021
Bought a wifi 6 router and information technology is every bit smooth every bit butter.
What did you lot have before? Does the Quest 2
use Wifi 6? I have a tri-band AC3200 router now with a 5GHz band peculiarly for the Quest two and even playing in the same room, directly line of sight, with the router I still get hiccups and stutter. My PC is directly connected to the router equally well and my specs are somewhat decent (i9-10850K, 64GB DDR4-3200, 2080Ti, 2TB nVME),
I just figured that slight stutter and stuff was just the nature of the creature.
- Apr 7, 2005
What did you have before? Does the Quest 2
utilize Wifi 6? I have a tri-band AC3200 router now with a 5GHz band especially for the Quest 2 and fifty-fifty playing in the same room, directly line of sight, with the router I yet get hiccups and stutter. My PC is directly connected to the router as well and my specs are somewhat decent (i9-10850K, 64GB DDR4-3200, 2080Ti, 2TB nVME),
I simply figured that slight stutter and stuff was just the nature of the beast.
I was using the wifi built into my cablevision modem. It is 5ghz but its air conditioning wifi. Early morning information technology was fine, merely not perfect. With my wife and son and all the associated devices continued even depression load will crusade stutter. Even on my new ASUS RT-AX58U, I have to disconnect my phone earlier playing.
Too, tried hot spot as I accept decent intel wifi built into my mobo. My agreement is that the windows network stack is non good plenty to get practiced latency and consistency.
Information technology isn’t just plug and play either. I used a wifi scanner on my phone to find an empty channel. I turned off the 2.4 ghz radio on the new router, forced information technology to 80mhz and AX only. Whatever load other than virtual desktop is going to cause stutter.
A big thing for me was I had to uninstall anything that monitored the gpu. I take an asus mouse and corsair keyboard. I had to uninstall that software and impale any remnants that yet pop upwardly in the chore manager. The nvidia drivers are still fucked. Whatsoever rgb or gpu monitoring/overclock software causes stutter in vr.
In alyx I get a hickup maybe every 5 or 10 minutes. On lighter games they seem to never stutter now.
And yep the quest uses wifi 6. I connect at 1.2gbit with wifi 6.
- Jan 18, 2021
- Apr vii, 2005
Interesting…maybe I’ll have to play around with it and my settings every bit I have a lot of monitoring software. Sounds like as far as the bodily wireless I’m withal doing OK in terms of actual tech…
AC should still be fine, just make sure its using 80mhz and impale the monitoring software. Also effort HEVC at similar 60 mbit if yous are using h.264 at 100mbit.
I run VR HIGH on virtual desktop with my 3080. I noticed yesterday that boneworks was interim funky. I checked and it was outputting at around 3000×3000 per eye which is 18megapixels per frame. It was beating the encoders ass. And so make sure you are outputting a sane resolution.
I scaled it back to almost what virtual desktop outputs and information technology smoothed it out. Medium looks fine by the way.
Hither are the resolutions vr desktop outputs
Low: 1728×1824 Medium: 2016×2112 High: 2496×2592
I retrieve the main perk of wifi 6 is that I can play in another room. Air-conditioning isn’t as forgiving.
- November 12, 2012
AC should withal be fine, merely make sure its using 80mhz and kill the monitoring software. Also try HEVC at like threescore mbit if you are using h.264 at 100mbit.
I run VR Loftier on virtual desktop with my 3080. I noticed yesterday that boneworks was interim funky. I checked and it was outputting at around 3000×3000 per heart which is 18megapixels per frame. It was beating the encoders donkey. And then make sure you are outputting a sane resolution.
I scaled it dorsum to near what virtual desktop outputs and it smoothed it out. Medium looks fine by the way.
Hither are the resolutions vr desktop outputs
Low: 1728×1824 Medium: 2016×2112 High: 2496×2592
I think the master perk of wifi 6 is that I tin play in another room. AC isn’t as forgiving.
Not really. The range is basically the same.
Wifi 6 simultaneously transmits and receives which significantly reduces latency. That’south the biggest departure, that also means less slowdown while more devices are continued, but I withal limit information technology to only my Quest two.
Likewise just having higher bandwidth helps with latency fifty-fifty though you lot aren’t using all of information technology because the frame takes less fourth dimension to transfer.
Which is why you may not want to max out your bitrate, fifty-fifty though your system can handle information technology, it will increase latency. Yous really need to experiment and tweak to get the rest you prefer.
- Jun half-dozen, 2003
- Oct 16, 2016
Proficient thermal performance is CRITICAL.
This laptop tends to run hot when gaming, even in flat/monitor mode, and the moment the RTX 2070 Max-Q hits 85C, it starts to intermittently throttle, which is jarring enough on a monitor and almost certainly nauseating in VR. Get something that will proceed itself cool under load, and make certain it has room to breathe underneath.
- Do non await a given laptop GPU to fifty-fifty come close to its desktop counterpart. The aforementioned RTX 2070 Max-Q?
Worse than a desktop RTX 2060.
This isn’t helping matters when VR wants as much GPU every bit you can afford, and benefits large fourth dimension from performance on the caliber of a desktop RTX 3080 and even 3090 – which just aren’t possible in laptops due to the enormous TDP.
- The Quest 2 interfacing over a compressed USB stream means you don’t accept to worry nigh this nearly every bit much, but if y’all go to an Alphabetize or other PC-driven VR HMD in the future, exist mindful of whether your laptop of option has DisplayPort, or a USB-C port that can be adapted to DP with a passive adapter. Full-on USB-C docking stations with multiple ports will generally
work. Maybe I’d take amend luck trying a TB iii.0 docking station/port replicator, but the simple USB-C to DP adapter just works.
- Also consider the spacing of those ports; having a DP that’s nowhere almost whatever USB-C ports is going to make plugging in something like an Alphabetize quite bad-mannered if there’southward non plenty slack between the private cables at the end.
- Some laptops will slowly drain the battery under load even when plugged in, and others will throttle themselves if given an Ac adapter that’s as well weak. HP generally opts for the latter; even the 130-150W PSUs provided with my piece of work armada ZBook 15s aren’t enough for the OMEN X 2S, which ships with a 230W adapter, and it gives you a warning notification and throttles hard, making a lot of games deadline unplayable. To its credit, though, the battery never drained when plugged in.
I practise wish this thing had noticeably better operation than my one-time GTX 980-equipped desktop in VR, simply nope, it’southward nowhere nearly as good in DCS equally said desktop when I tested it with an RTX 2080 for a day (was borrowing information technology for troubleshooting purposes, and admittedly a little benching). Though to be fair, DCS is like No Homo’due south Sky in that both are horridly unoptimized in VR performance (hell, performance in full general for DCS) and practically crave an RTX 3080 to run smoothly, and fifty-fifty that may non cut information technology.
Hopefully, y’all detect a laptop that holds upwards under sustained load and doesn’t cost too much. I’d be interested in seeing how the latest crop of RTX 3070/3080 laptops stack up for VR.
- Oct 21, 2006
I’d be interested in seeing how the latest crop of RTX 3070/3080 laptops stack upwards for VR.
I retrieve the 3xxx laptop cards aren’t great. They don’t fifty-fifty come close to the operation of their desktop counterparts. It’s the old bait and switch naming scheme.
- Nov 12, 2012
I think the 3xxx laptop cards aren’t great. They don’t even come up close to the performance of their desktop counterparts. Information technology’s the one-time bait and switch naming scheme.
Even different laptops using the aforementioned carte du jour volition have dissimilar operation, because they don’t give them adequate power. Nvidia made some new dominion for laptop makers to try to stop that.
Also the cooling on laptops is typically simply inadequate. And then much that laptops with better cooling and lower end cards can outperform laptops with college end cards.
Y’all basically can’t look at the specs alone, y’all demand to look at actual hardware operation reviews from reputable reviewers.
If your main use is gaming, it’s definitely not a skillful choice unless you absolutely need it to be mobile.
- Aug xviii, 2017
I want to confirm my Razer Blade 240 Hz laptop with RTX 2080 Max-Q works fine with Quest 2 — streaming overheads included. I’1000 able to play PC VR with total quality if I put the laptop on a good laptop cooling pad and keep the laptop plugged into its 230 watt power brick. If my Blade 15 can practise it, I’m certain all 15″ Blades tin (the 240Hz, 300Hz, 360Hz models with RTX graphics) — as long every bit cooled fairly.
The practiced thing is the Blade is an all-metallic monobloc gaming laptop like a black MacBook, and the GPU heatsinks directly to the chassis, so it’south easy to add additional cooling externally — it stops the thermal throttling stutters. And I appear to be getting 1080 league performance instead of 980 league performance.
It won’t be as performant every bit a tower PC, but you can at least surpass a desktop GTX 1080 (when subtracting wireless streaming overhead), if you lot add a good laptop cooling pad to your laptop to avoid thermal throttling bug.
Search Amazon for “
laptop cooling pad
“, a decent one is almost mandatory for usable laptop PCVR (bank check the reviews for a good 1). They generally look similar these:
When the Quest 2 v28 firmware hits, I will examination the built-in WiFi half-dozen of the Razer Blade with wireless AirLink and run into if I’ve got a mobile wireless PCVR Quest 2 rig.
It’s not why I got the Razer Blade, only a mobile PCVR rig is certainly achievable — if you have an RTX-league flake in your laptop.
- Jun half-dozen, 2003
Desktop is improve, but laptop PCVR is doable:
I desire to confirm my Razer Blade 240 Hz laptop with RTX 2080 Max-Q works fine with Quest ii — streaming overheads included. I’1000 able to play PC VR with total quality if I put the laptop on a good laptop cooling pad and keep the laptop plugged into its 230 watt power brick. If my Blade 15 can do information technology, I’m sure all 15″ Blades tin can (the 240Hz, 300Hz, 360Hz models with RTX graphics) — equally long as cooled adequately.
The good matter is the Blade is an all-metal monobloc gaming laptop like a blackness MacBook, and the GPU heatsinks direct to the chassis, so it’southward easy to add additional cooling externally — it stops the thermal throttling stutters. And I appear to be getting 1080 league performance instead of 980 league performance.
It won’t exist as performant equally a belfry PC, merely you can at least surpass a desktop GTX 1080 (when subtracting wireless streaming overhead), if you add a good laptop cooling pad to your laptop to avoid thermal throttling problems.
Search Amazon for “
laptop cooling pad
“, a decent one is almost mandatory for usable laptop PCVR (bank check the reviews for a skilful i). They generally look like these:
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When the Quest 2 v28 firmware hits, I will exam the built-in WiFi half-dozen of the Razer Bract with wireless AirLink and see if I’ve got a mobile wireless PCVR Quest 2 rig.
It’s not why I got the Razer Blade, but a mobile PCVR rig is certainly doable — if yous have an RTX-league chip in your laptop.
Did y’all exam the congenital in wifi with air link yet? I tried it via VD a while back on my Asus G14 and information technology was a no-go, but planning to give it another become with updated drivers all effectually as that was quite a while agone. It worked fine via router, but I would like a self contained portable VR setup that doesn’t tether the headset to the laptop if possible without having to bother with a router.
- Aug 18, 2017
I do become better results with an external WiFi adaptor (1 of those USB3 adaptors with two huge antennas). Currently testing out a BrosTrend unit that has 2 oversized 20-centimeter antennas, that spouts out of a thumbdrive-sized dongle. Information technology’due south probably the smallest USB WiFi that has a signal as strong equally a router.
Your laptop CPU will exist routing all those WiFi packets, but non a problem with vi-cadre / 12-thread gaming laptop if you adapt operation settings a bit. Make sure your networking thread is not starved during AirLink operation, you may take to exam thread priorities to keep USB WiFi a bit more performance — you need depression latency for WiFi processing, and USB WiFi is similar a softmodem of sorts — then pay attention to not CPU-starving your WiFi drivers. Lock the laptop in Performance Manner, disable power direction, and blow a lot of external air at the hot metal laptop.
For a completely Ethernetless connectedness including Internet, I am going to install “Connectify” app to effort something slightly more complex (simultaneous bridging + hotspotting):
i. WiFi Internal (Razer WiFi locked to two.4 GHz) to connect to my Internet connexion
2. WiFi External (USB 2-antenna WiFi locked to 5 Ghz) to connect to Quest 2 via AirLink
One time I’ve done that I’ll report that. You do not demand a good WiFi Internet connexion for Quest 2 — merely good peer to peer WiFi between the laptop and Quest 2; that’s the important part for AirLink or Virtual Desktop. I’thousand hoping I can achieve 150-200 Mbps AirLink this style. Obviously, an external router may be superior, simply by isolating 5 GHz airwaves in the immediate vincinty of my laptop, only to AirLink, I may be able to attain acceptable untethered mobile PCVR performance.
You still need one wire though: A power outlet! A non-thermally-throttled gaming laptop definitely demand to draw ~200 watts of electricity for successful PCVR.
If y’all want to get completely wireless (offgrid), yous need one bigass power bank to supply that, internal bombardment mode for laptop PCVR is not able to exist plenty for quite noticeably better than Quest ii built-in GPU graphics.
Off-Grid tip: For a completely offgrid PCVR including electricity, you tin use one of those massive 250-watt or 500-watt lithium power bank (with Air conditioning outlet) such as a Jackery Power Station (
google) for two hours of PCVR – typically about lunchbox sized, though there are dictionary-volume size ~200 watt units (amazon) that may have enough heft for an hour of PCVR. Personally, I don’t need this total offgrid-ness as I’chiliad at the level of “demo at the family house” (plenty of AC outlets for laptop), but I’ve heard of people successfully using these camping battery banks.
- Jun 6, 2003
The Razer has built-in 11ax WiFi. AirLink works via the built-in WiFi, at lower bitrates. But if y’all want an Internet connection at the same time as AirLink, y’all however accept to Ethernet the laptop to the router.
I do get improve results with an external WiFi adaptor (one of those USB3 adaptors with 2 huge antennas). Currently testing out a BrosTrend unit that has 2 oversized twenty-centimeter antennas, that spouts out of a thumbdrive-sized dongle. Information technology’s probably the smallest USB WiFi that has a signal as strong as a router.
Your laptop CPU volition be routing all those WiFi packets, but non a problem with 6-core / 12-thread gaming laptop if you adjust performance settings a bit. Make sure your networking thread is not starved during AirLink operation, you may have to test thread priorities to keep USB WiFi a bit more performance — yous need low latency for WiFi processing, and USB WiFi is like a softmodem of sorts — and so pay attention to non CPU-starving your WiFi drivers. Lock the laptop in Performance Mode, disable power direction, and blow a lot of external air at the hot metallic laptop.
For a completely Ethernetless connection including Internet, I am going to install “Connectify” app to attempt something slightly more complex (simultaneous bridging + hotspotting):
1. WiFi Internal (Razer WiFi locked to 2.4 GHz) to connect to my Internet connexion
ii. WiFi External (USB ii-antenna WiFi locked to 5 Ghz) to connect to Quest 2 via AirLink
Once I’ve washed that I’ll report that. You lot practise not need a proficient WiFi Internet connection for Quest 2 — simply good peer to peer WiFi between the laptop and Quest 2; that’s the of import role for AirLink or Virtual Desktop. I’m hoping I can achieve 150-200 Mbps AirLink this way. Obviously, an external router may be superior, but by isolating 5 GHz airwaves in the firsthand vincinty of my laptop, merely to AirLink, I may be able to accomplish acceptable untethered mobile PCVR performance.
Y’all still demand one wire though: A ability outlet! A non-thermally-throttled gaming laptop definitely demand to draw ~200 watts of electricity for successful PCVR.
If you want to get completely wireless (offgrid), you need one bigass ability banking concern to supply that, internal battery mode for laptop PCVR is not able to be enough for quite noticeably better than Quest two congenital-in GPU graphics.
Off-Grid tip: For a completely offgrid PCVR including electricity, you lot can use 1 of those massive 250-watt or 500-watt lithium power banking company (with Ac outlet) such as a Jackery Power Station (
google) for 2 hours of PCVR – typically most lunchbox sized, though in that location are dictionary-book size ~200 watt units (amazon) that may have enough heft for an hour of PCVR. Personally, I don’t need this total offgrid-ness every bit I’m at the level of “demo at the family unit house” (plenty of Air-conditioning outlets for laptop), only I’ve heard of people successfully using these camping battery banks.
I take a usb cell modem and a power inverter with dual batteries in my Jeep, and so consummate off grid is possible.
I’d rarely, if ever, actually practise that. I’m simply curious if it can be done properly without a router as that’s a chip of a pita to bring along. If not I’d probably just get wired link for portable pcvr even if it’s non quite as immersive.
- Aug eighteen, 2017
I have a usb prison cell modem and a power inverter with dual batteries in my Jeep, so complete off grid is possible.
I’d rarely, if ever, actually do that. I’m only curious if it tin be done properly without a router as that’s a chip of a pita to bring along. If not I’d probably just become wired link for portable pcvr even if it’s not quite every bit immersive.
I am able to use a single WiFi AirLink connection with the Cyberspace disabled just a lot of software/games expect an Cyberspace connection, and it’s nicer to use the VR menu interface (videos, store, etc) with an Internet connection.
I am nevertheless trying to coax my laptop to utilise ii.4 GHz WiFi (for Internet) and v GHz WiFi (for Quest 2) to have the Net on a dissever WiFi band equally my Quest ii AirLink.
I haven’t even so succeeded, but I have tried the following
- Windows 10 WiFi bridging (fail)
- Windows ten Mobile Hotspot
- Connectify software – https://world wide web.connectify.me/
- Routed and Bridged modes
- Internal WiFi only (11ax)
- External WiFi merely (11ac but with big antennas)
- Both Internal and External WiFi at same time (one for Quest 2, 1 for Internet), using internal for Net, external for AirLink
- Both Internal and External WiFi at same time (one for Quest 2, i for Cyberspace), using internal for AirLink, external for Internet
- Configuring Internal and External WiFi to prefer separate frequencies
- Attempted Hosted Network (none of my adaptor support it) – https://answers.microsoft.com/en-united states of america…fixed-it/aa3923c4-2759-4853-bb4e-3bf417cfc778
- Attempted Registry mods for set Preferred adaptor – https://superuser.com/questions/1448054/choose-which-adapter-to-use-for-mobile-hotspot-on-windows-ten
Microsoft Windows makes information technology fairly hard to practise such an unusual operation. I often end upwardly AirLink with just ii.4 GHz as an example, or lack of Net connection — perhaps i of yous network professionals might be able to figure out how to assign separate WiFi adaptors / frequencies for Cyberspace connecting vs AirLinking at the aforementioned fourth dimension.
AirLink seemed to piece of work most reliably with no Cyberspace connection (offline play) with the Razer’s laptop internal 11ax connection which is able to connect to the Quest ii at 1200 Mbps.
Until this is fixed, mobile PCVR AirLink works best while offline (no Internet), or with wired Cyberspace
As shortly as I try to enable WiFi Internet simultaneously, I lose that AirLink speed — and as soon every bit I try to add a 2nd WiFi adaptork, I go either errors, no Internet, or inability to separate the frequencies (unable to practice Internet at 2.4 GHz only on a 2nd WiFi adaptor). Theoretically a two.4 GHz adaptor shouldn’t interfere a separate 5 GHz adaptor, but Windows 10 don’t play nice with a dual-WiFi + split up Internet adaptor versus hotspot adaptor.
Ideas welcome from network professionals to let me to have my cake & swallow it likewise.
- May iii, 2005
The ane that is for your headset should accept no gateway – run the control :
..from a command prompt to check. The adapter with the 0.0.0.0 accost is the one routing net traffic. I would use the congenital in wifi vs USB to test this split connectivity first before trying to separate the 2.four va 5ghz on a unmarried physical adapter.
- Jun half-dozen, 2003
If you have 2 adapters visible to Windows only assign the gateway address to one – that’s the one that will provide internet.
The one that is for your headset should have no gateway – run the command :
..from a command prompt to check. The adapter with the 0.0.0.0 accost is the one routing net traffic. I would use the built in wifi vs USB to exam this divide connectivity kickoff before trying to split the 2.four va 5ghz on a single physical adapter.
I gave it a shot with updated drivers, v29 of oculus and the integrated hotspot on my G14 (forced to 5ghz) and it all worked actually well – except for the Nvidia drivers, had to run an older version to get link working at all. I was running 90fps with bitrate on auto and tested it with Alyx for about an hour and it was really expert, definitely skillful enough to where I’m non going to invest in whatever other hardware. I tried it both running through my router and the laptop hotspot and couldn’t tell the difference, then I’ll call that a win