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Information technology’s the Friday open thread!
The comment section on this mail is open for discussion with other readers on any work-related questions that you want to talk virtually (that includes schoolhouse). If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a take a chance to have your questions to other readers.
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It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go…
1. Should I take a task where the CEO is a dick?
I have a last round interview at a company that seems fine. In a previous round I met a C-suite person who said something along the lines of “the CEO isn’t a practiced people manager.” That C-suiter mentioned that he is expert friends with a C-suiter at my electric current company (I but got laid off so I tin talk openly about interviews). I asked that person if he knew anything about the company and he said “The CEO is non the type of leader I would desire to report to.” My current boss had previously interviewed in that location and told me bluntly that the CEO is a dick. My job would be director level and at that place would yet be three levels between the CEO and me (he would be my great-bully-grandboss), so it doesn’t seem like the CEO’south dickiness would really touch on me. Everyone I met who I would be working directly with has been at that place for 3-five years and seemed perfectly happy, merely my current dominate strongly brash me not to go at that place. How much can a CEO with a bad personality affect a eye manager?
In that location’south often a sort of trickle-down dickishness effect when the person at the top is a dick. It can happen even if the managers under him are skillful people, because a dick at the summit puts pressure on lower level managers in ways that can warp the manner they manage. (I’ll never forget working with someone who had always seemed lovely, let’s telephone call her Jane, and finding out she had lectured a remote employee for
not answering the telephone while they were in the bath. The reason? Her own boss, Bob, was a supreme a-hole who behaved like a tyrant almost of the time, and the force per unit area from Bob was trickling down from Bob to Jane to Jane’s staff.)
Usually when you take good people managing beneath a jerk, they’ll endeavour to act as a buffer for their staffs … just at that place’s only so much buffering you lot tin can do, and it really does tend to trickle downwardly in 1 manner or another.
If you generally trust your boss’s judgment, I’d put a lot of weight on her alert.
two. I said I’d leave this summer just I’grand beingness pushed out now
I began working at this company in December 2020. One time I started I didn’t get trained properly, just I managed to figure out and implement a better system. I knew from the first I was overqualified, but I needed a job so I was grateful. When my boss noticed my work ethic, he started giving me other tasks that were outside of my task description. I asked for a heighten because I was handling more than duties and he told me no considering I had not been working there for a year.
In December 2021, I submitted my resignation to get back to school to pursue my masters in January. My boss ignored me for two days and when I confronted him about it, he said that we should have talked before I resigned. I had explained in my resignation letter why I was leaving. I told him I wanted more pay and going back to schoolhouse would make me more competitive in the job market, and that with my electric current position I cannot do school and work. He and so managed out an employee and lied to u.s.a. about the reasoning. He told me I would be taking over her position, which is a lot more than work, and that I could piece of work from home on the days I had school. I asked for a pay adjustment and he said no since he had already given me a raise for this new position and was doing me the favor of letting me piece of work from home. I checked my paystub and in that location was a raise which happened in November, so that raise was not for my new position. It was besides not what I had asked for, nor anything I had negotiated.
Iii months later, I asked for a heighten again because I knew damn well I am overqualified, and he said no. I told him that I was non planning on staying with the company for the full twelvemonth and would resign in the summer. (I didn’t give him an exact month or date. I just said summertime.) I thought I was being honorable by giving him a notice. But he just called me and said he institute a replacement for me so I can end working whenever I want. It feels like I’m getting let become, but he didn’t state that I am. He said I merely have until June if I want to stay just he has a replacement already. I didn’t exactly understand what was happening since technically I take not resigned, but it felt like I was getting let become without getting permit get. Should I even put in my two weeks?
Aye, once yous announce you’re leaving, you often lose control over the verbal timing of when it happens. A lot of employers will start searching for your replacement at that point, and if they find ane sooner than you’re ready to leave, you can end up getting pushed out before y’all planned to go. Proficient managers try to avert this considering it can mean no one else ever gives them a generous amount of notice ever again … but information technology definitely happens.
to stay longer, or would you rather go out now? It doesn’t sound like you’d necessarily demand to requite a full two weeks find, but that’s something you should check with your boss. Once you’re at the point where you’d exist willing to leave in the adjacent two weeks, it’southward fine to say, “Would you like me to requite two weeks detect or would you prefer I wrap up now?” You don’t
to requite him the option, but ideally y’all don’t want future reference-checkers told you left abruptly. (Theoretically he shouldn’t say that since his whole point seems to exist that you did give notice by proverb you’d get out in the summer … but I wouldn’t trust him not to twist it if you lot requite him the opportunity.)
3. My coworker wants to be trained on things that have nothing to practice with her chore
I have a coworker who has been at our company for three years. She was hired for accounts receivable and back up front end office duties. Since coming to work here, she has shown a pattern of wanting to do anybody else’southward task. At first, she tried to butt into my work and I politely tried to tell her that I had everything nether control. Since then, she says she wants to be trained on running a forklift and how to run the production line, and has fifty-fifty gone so far as to say that she wants to be trained on how to maintain and repair large machinery. Near of her requests are largely ignored, simply she does non realize that information technology’s not her responsibility to do those things and she has not been asked to exercise those things.
I was taught that you exercise your job, you exercise it well, and you focus on your own work. If management needs me to help in other areas, I am more than willing to help if necessary, but I’k not going to interject myself into a situation where I am not needed or qualified.
At that place have been times when she’s been needed in accounts receivable and isn’t available because she’s off “helping” somewhere else. Is this the new attitude these days? I’m non certain what to make of this situation.
It’s not the new mental attitude these days. It’south your one highly enthusiastic coworker and management that patently isn’t reining her in.
Side bespeak of involvement: there has been a dramatic explosion in the number of questions I get asking if 1 strange situation is a new tendency. I never used to see that framing much in my inbox, and now I meet it multiple times a solar day. My theory is that it’s because so much has changed in the last couple of years, and so many things we used to assume would be too outrageous to happen have happened … and then it’s hard to tell if something is ane random weird situation or office of a bigger pattern of change.
4. Is a life update email a creepy way to keep in touch on?
My peers occasionally write me emails subjected “Update” and share what’s going on with them. Sometimes they are long paragraphs and sometimes it is a few brusk sentences.
I want to exercise this also! Only I am not sure how. What is advisable or non appropriate? New job? New volunteer gig? Moving? Spousal relationship or new kids? When does information technology cross the line? How frequently should update emails go out? How long should the exist?
Who is the appropriate audience? A former colleague one job ago? Three jobs ago? A professor from two years agone? Professor from undergrad (half a decade ago)? Former classmates?
Just trying to figure out a way to keep in bear upon in a more than personal (just not creepy or intense) style aside from LinkedIn posts and coincidental Twitter interactions.
Yes, it’s a good way to keep in touch with professional contacts who you lot otherwise might not talk to for years. Typically I’d say to aim for one time a year or so, although two wouldn’t be excessive if you had really big professional news to share, similar a new job. Your content depends on what you have to share. If you have a new task, that’south the easiest focus. But it’s also fine to mention stuff similar volunteer work, an impressive new project, or interesting/impressive results from a project (but keep the details pretty brief unless you know the person you’re writing to has a special interest in that area). You can also include any big personal developments that you want to share, like marriage, kids, or a relocation. (I wouldn’t make the personal stuff your focus, but you can sprinkle it in at that place every bit additional things that are happening with you.) And if you don’t have big news to share, it’south fine to skip all/most of the updating and merely frame it as “it’south been a long time, wondered how you were doing, idea of you this calendar week when I did 10 the way you taught me to” or similar.
Every bit for who — anyone you lot want to stay in professional contact with and/or might want to use as a reference or network with at some point.
A reader writes:
I work in the public sector equally a managing director of a library. I’ve been in this position for a little over a twelvemonth, only have had other library management jobs for the past 5-ish years. Due to the lower wages (above state minimum, but by merely like a dollar) and mostly part-fourth dimension positions that we offer, nosotros tend to lose people quickly and that has just accelerated since the pandemic. I totally understand, and a lot of our folks usually get a total-time job at some other library location or local government function in the canton, and so nosotros don’t actually “lose” them (we’re more of a “pes in” or a stepping rock for their career ambitions) just we exercise have pretty frequent function-time turnover. Information technology’s part of the market right now, and it means that I’m having to hire 2-iii part-time people every 3 months. I do what I tin to keep people — I have no control over wages since they’re set past the board/county government, simply we offering flexible schedules and grooming opportunities, recommend folks to full-time jobs or higher paying jobs with the county library/government when those positions open, thank staff for jobs well washed, purchase people’southward favorite processed/nutrient/coffee for the break room, give clear feedback, and offer chances to do fun or interesting projects when they come up up.
My question is a change that I have noticed from candidates and whether there’s anything I can do to minimize how frequently it happens. When I set up interviews with candidates, I ship an email that has info on the position, what the telephone screen looks like, what the procedure is, etc. And so I’ll say, “We are setting up telephone interviews for X, Y and Z days adjacent calendar week. Please let me know your full availability for those 3 days and I will get back to you ASAP with the day and time of your telephone screen.” Prior to the shifts in the job market, about 80% of the fourth dimension people would send dorsum their full availability, and 20% would be vague, ask for a specific time due to schedule constraints, or decide they didn’t want to become through with information technology. Inside the past 6 months, perchance i or 2 candidates total in each pool will give me their availability. The rest will just pick a time and act as though they’re the ones scheduling the interview. One of the most recent examples was a candidate who said, “Thank you for reaching out to me. I’ll be glad to consider your offer and await forward to speaking with you at 9 am on Monday.” No context, no “oh my schedule is tight so I tin can only practice this one slot,” simply “I’yard picking my time.”
This used to be rare merely now information technology is all the time. The most recent pool, I sent out 10 telephone screen requests and all of them “scheduled” themselves for 9 am on Monday apart from one, who on paper is the meridian candidate, so them following the availability directions has been another point in their favor.
Our pools tend to be people right out of high school/college. Is this, like, new career communication that’s beingness touted somewhere? Is the email that I send request for availability non articulate enough? How could I stress that I need someone’s full availability so I tin practice the calendar Tetris game to fit everyone in?
Every bit of now, I’ve just been slotting the first person to get back with me with the time they “schedule” and responding to other emails with “Sorry, I already have filled that slot — please give me your full availability for X, Y and Z days and I will e-mail yous back with your interview twenty-four hours and fourth dimension.” Simply fifty-fifty so, most half the people will just choice another specific date/time and do the same matter once again! Apart from anything I can clarify or change to smooth the process, if I continue to get emails from candidates who don’t follow directions, is there any reason I can’t just say “thanks for your interest, but with these schedule restrictions, we’ll have to pass on this round — keep applying to future openings if they fit your experience and career goals” and remove them from our interview pool?
This is weird!
I do think, though, that you might be making this harder on yourself than it needs to be. Can you figure out all possible interview times on your end first and and so just create an online calendar with those openings and let people book what works for them, thus eliminating the back and forth?
As for why it’due south happening, my hunch is that it’s a combination of:
(a) dealing with people correct out of school who don’t have much feel with business protocol yet, including basic stuff similar interview scheduling — considering this current crop of new grads has less experience on average than new grads previously, considering pandemic restrictions mean they’ve had fewer in-function internships and other on-the-chore training
(b) the depression-wage, part-time nature of the job, which means the strongest candidates with the best options (who are more likely to read, process, and respond to an electronic mail effectively) aren’t in your pool at all,
in this job market
(c) mayhap some resistance to the set-up from candidates who experience it’s an inconvenience to them to have to transport over full availability for multiple days and so hold those times open up for who knows how long before they hear back … something that could exist cartoon more resistance in the current job market, where more candidates experience empowered to assert more command than previously.
I’d bet switching to an online booking organisation would solve it!
It’due south the Thursday “inquire the readers” question. A reader writes:
My question is nearly networking and family. My parents and I are in the same field, and I definitely was helped from the very showtime of my career past their experience and connections. Now that I’m finishing graduate schoolhouse withal, I feel that I want to take a fully independent approach to my job searching.
My mother was unfortunately a chip upset when I turned down her offering to connect me with some people she knows in one of the companies I’thou somewhat interested in applying to. My view is that I don’t desire people to see me as someone’due south daughter and accept my merits stand on their own, and I don’t want to be swayed by my female parent’south interests. Am I being stubborn and giving upward on important information and connections past rejecting my mother’s help?
Probably, merely you lot’re also allowed to be uncomfortable with it. Readers, what’due south your have?
Information technology’due south five answers to five questions. Here nosotros go…
1. My boss hasn’t spoken to me in a year, but quitting feels similar letting him win
I am a dept manager at a minor nonprofit for a cause I’m passionate near. I study to our exec director. I’ve been here five years. information technology’s become clear that my boss does not care about our mission and I recall he operates unethically. I have pushed back on some things I idea were inappropriate, and our relationship has deteriorated. For the past year, he volition not meet with me or answer to emails with more a yes/no. He sends me messages through other managers or my directly reports. It is unbelievably juvenile and information technology would exist humiliating, except I have a proficient rapport with my staff and they do not respect my dominate. I talked to one member of our board and he indicated they want to go along our director in his role. They seem to turn a bullheaded middle to some of his more unethical practices because he keeps us operating in the black.
I know he is trying to forcefulness me out and I would like to leave. I know it would be amend for my mental health. This organisation is not constructive as information technology could be and I plain can’t succeed while being frozen out. But walking away feels like letting him win and it makes me so angry! My team does good work with crummy support, and I believe in them. Plus we are kind of a niche field, and I may need to change fields or movement cities to find another chore. What huge life changes to make because of this person.
Is information technology crazy to stay and effort to make information technology work, accepting that my boss won’t speak to me and merely ignoring it? I think if he wants me to leave he should say that directly, and office of me wants to stay merely to spite him. That’south dumb, right?
Well, yeah. You’re prioritizing the principle of the matter over your mental wellness and quality of life — and your career too, since you tin’t thrive in an environment where your dominate is freezing you out (more than on that here). This guy is a jerk and a terrible director; who cares if he gets to feel like he “won” somehow? Buying into his worldview like that gives him a ton of power over yous career and your happiness.
You lose by staying. You win by choosing a better situation.
two. I want to receive projects past email, not IM
I take a potent preference for receiving written task assignments and requests for piece of work past electronic mail. I also take colleagues who adopt to send and receive these through our messaging platform. I’m non anti-platform! I apply it cheerfully for many purposes, including answering questions, etc., that tin exist answered off the top of my caput. And if I’m on a call or in person, I take my own activity-item notes and that’s fine.
Only I have a number of colleagues who similar to send full-on requests for work through the platform: multiple paragraphs of instructions, documents that need my review or contribution, complex questions that I’ll have to enquiry to answer, etc. Everyone is very gracious when I ask them to redirect to email (and explain that doing and so volition make certain the task stays on my radar), but I can’t help wondering if this is reasonable of me. On the one hand, if it merely takes a minute to email myself the relevant info and it feels dizzy to enquire other people to alter their process to save me a minute. On the other, that minute multiplied by the number of requests does add upward, and sending the email in the commencement place wouldn’t take any longer than sending information technology through the messaging platform. But is this a changing professional norm that I should be adapting to instead of cheerfully pushing dorsum confronting?
Possibly relevant: I accept a disability that means that I live and die by my organizational systems. I have an established system for managing my work that works really well for my office and for my quirky brain … and that arrangement involves the use of electronic mail folders. I’m open to adjusting my systems when improve ways nowadays themselves, only I’ve not all the same figured out a good way to get what I need from our messaging platform without pulling the assignment out of the platform birthday. And so my resistance is coming less from a identify of convenience than a place of being significantly more likely to drop a ball if it gets tossed to me via this 1 particular route.
Possibly besides relevant: I’m a programme manager and the messaging-based requests mostly come from more inferior staff and occasionally from peers; my supervisory chain and most peers tend to share my approach. That said, I’1000 goose egg percent interested in inconveniencing junior staff if I’m being a jerk about this!
Yous’re not being a jerk about it. Every communication platform is adept for some things and not for others. Instant messaging is nifty for quick, real-time questions. Information technology’s not corking for more involved things with lots of details that volition get buried at that place. Information technology’s entirely reasonable to say, “Could you delight e-mail that to me so I don’t lose these details?” And if you say information technology plenty, over fourth dimension you’ll likely train people to do it that way in the first place.
If your boss or others higher up yous were doing this, you’d demand to be more than accommodating — although even and so if it were a pattern in that location would exist room for speaking up at some indicate — but with junior staff and peers, you really don’t need to trip the light fantastic toe around it.
three. A coworker called Baby
I used “Surprise me!” on your site, and found an old alphabetic character where a human being who went past Rex was asked not to use that name on his new job. You said it was ridiculous that the company had asked him to change his proper name and that people should be called the name that they adopt. I agree but…
When I was a woman in my 20s, I worked on a pocket-size squad of programmers. The company hired a new employee every bit our our team leader. His resume said his name was Michael and we called him Michael in his interviews. He did not correct the states. I greeted him on his first 24-hour interval, calling him Michael. He immediately said, “I go by Babe.” I misunderstood him and looked a scrap puzzled. He said, “You lot heard me. Phone call me Babe.” I tried at get-go, just he turned out to arrogant and unpleasant to women and I had problem calling him Babe. If I called him Michael, he always said “Call me Babe” with what felt like sexual allusion. To be fair, he also asked men to call him Babe though I am sure without any sexual undertone. If he had ever said something similar, “Infant, you know like Infant Ruth” it could have felt totally different.
At the time, I spoke to other younger women in my function who had the same reaction. We went to our big dominate and asked her if nosotros could call him Michael. She said as long as we treated him with respect, we could call him by his existent name and didn’t have to employ the nickname. And then to his confront nosotros either avoided calling him anything or called him Michael.
He didn’t last long. His project failed and he was a poor fit for our civilization. So he and the trouble disappeared.
At present I’m wondering. I refused to call him the name he said he had been called all his life. And the company backed me upwards. What do you remember? As the Reddit subgroup says, AITA?
It doesn’t audio like your discomfort was about the nickname specifically, but rather about this guy himself and the way he acted toward women. It’s reasonable to experience uneasy nigh that!
Just people’s names should be respected. There isn’t an exception for “I think he might be doing this to brand people uncomfortable” — in big office because information technology’s very hard to know that for sure, and if you make exceptions based on your personal discomfort or a suspicion, you open the door for people to be disrespectful about names that are really just people’s names. (The fact that he went by Michael in the interview doesn’t really mean anything. It’s not uncommon for people to apply their formal, legal names in interviews but go by a nickname in one case they’re hired.) If you do remember someone is messing with you, the all-time fashion to handle it is to simply use their name flatly and matter-of-factly equally requested without protest; if it’s their name y’all’re being respectful, and if it’s non your non-reaction will take the fun out of it for them.
four. My employee is sick with Covid, only even so working from home
I just became a manager a few weeks ago, and one of my team members has Covid. She took most of a week off, but when we checked in the side by side week, she told me she was working from bed (we’re hybrid but obviously she’s exempt from in-role time right now), and frankly sounded horrible.
I encouraged her to have the time she needs, but she said she was worried almost using all of her sick time. I sent her info well-nigh our workplace’s curt term disability policy, told her to rest during the day as much as she needs to, and we took some things off her plate. Is at that place anything else I should be doing? Lesser line — I feel horrible that she is working! And angry that all the early-pandemic extra sick exit is gone (but that’southward just another aspect of my general rage about anybody deciding that Covid is over).
She shouldn’t exist working while she’s sick.
She also has limited sick go out, and an understandable fear of running out of information technology when she’south still got seven months left in the yr.
Telling her “please don’t work; you lot need to residual” sounds skillful in theory, only information technology might exist out of affect with the reality of her situation, even though ideally that’s what yous’d practice. So … can you take the lead on finding other options for her — whether it’s starting the paperwork for brusk-term disability (with her permission) or speaking with HR nigh options? In nigh cases, I’d tell you to besides speak upwardly loudly in your organization for amend sick leave practices, simply since you’re brand new you probable don’t have much capital nonetheless.
5. Application wants me to submit a electric current pay stub
I was filling out an online job awarding recently, and the commencement page asked for file uploads. They had a spot for a resume and a spot where they asked for a electric current pay stub “to verify employment.” They didn’t accept a identify for a cover letter of the alphabet, and the rest of the application was essentially re-typing your resume.
Is it normal/legal/at all reasonable for them to request a current pay stub? Aside from the pay equity problems that would arise from them having verbal bacon information, it would also give them details like what optional medical benefits I’ve elected to pay for, how much ill time I’ve taken then far this year, and how much I contribute to retirement. All of that seems similar it could be used against me. I don’t come across the benefit or why a potential employer needs to verify that I’m employed at present, since having a task isn’t required to become a task. Plus this position requires a regime clearance, which you lot will definitely fail if you lot’re lying well-nigh your employment.
Information technology’s a bizarre thing for them to ask for at this phase, particularly given that they’re not going to need to verify employment for 99% of their candidates (since well-nigh people will exist rejected before that office of the process) so they’re collecting a huge amount of personal data that they don’t need. It’southward not illegal unless they’re in one of the growing number of states that prohibit employers from asking about your salary, merely it’southward definitely weird and problematic.
However, if you want to move forward and can’t without submitting this, you can redact the private info on your paystub. If they really merely want to verify that you lot’re employed there, they don’t demand all the specific numbers on the paystub. Redact all the numbers you lot don’t want them to see (which might exist all of them) and ship it that manner.
Last week, I asked for stories near weirdly dramatic reactions that you’ve seen people have to small changes at piece of work. The comment department was total of fantastic stories — then many that I had to divide my favorites up into 2 posts. Yesterday was part one, and here’southward part two.
i. The picnic table
A new unit was added to my state government division, and the unit’s purpose was bitterly fought in the media past locals losing the ability to do this role. Because it was a new unit, a large per centum of the team were new to government service.
Outside the exit door almost the unit was a lovely picnic tabular array nether an old tree. Shady, cool, comfortable – and it gained a lot of use as the new unit staff spent breaks and lunch hours at that place. Unfortunately, it was on a main corner, and our agency had but been in the building for a few months, then the utilize was highly visible to passersby. Complaints about lazy state workers were made, and then the command staff decided to remove the table, especially since a new outdoor expanse was constructed where it wasn’t visible to the public. This was not acceptable to new unit.
New unit went ballistic. It was bitterly complained near at staff meetings, then sectionalisation meetings. The suggestion box was stuffed. A petition was signed and submitted to the managing director. Finally, ane Friday, they walked through the halls of our office with big mitt fatigued sentry signs, shouting, “No tabular array no peace!” After marching around for 15 minutes, they headed off to the managing director’s office. They didn’t come back for an hr, and when they did, they were silent, and all talk about the table concluded.
ii. The new telephone system
My office switched to a new phone organization because the previous ane was ancient. The new system has such wild features every bit … the ability to put a phone call on hold! The ability to transfer a telephone call to someone else! My colleagues lost their minds, even though the new system had features they specifically requested. But the all-time part was that after the installation of New Arrangement, anything and everything that broke in the office was blamed on New Phone Arrangement. Copier started jamming? It must have something to do with New Phone Organization. Printer ran out of toner? New Phone System is to blame. My all-fourth dimension favorite was when the Java MAKER broke and several of my colleagues genuinely believed the New Phone System was somehow responsible. Information technology took everything in me not to crack up with laughter explaining that the phone system was not connected to the java maker *at all*, and in that location was literally no way 1 could bear upon the other.
3. The Slack resistance
Our office exchanges a lot of correspondence with each other, and e-mail imboxes were imploding – and many emails were just single sentences, or the sentiment in the subject line itself. To help reduce the sheer number of emails, nosotros created a Slack for the entire forty-person office, and I assisted with making sure each team had various channels for their projects. The launch was pretty seamless, and the majority of the teams loved information technology. Except one team.
One team insisted on standing with email. They go every bit far every bit to ignore straight messages on Slack and answer via email that they only communicate via email. These folks were likewise the ones responsible for the majority of the ane-word, one-sentence email replies, and oft ship multiple one-judgement emails back to back most the same topic … you lot know, things that could just exist Slack messages!! The inability to suit is listen-boggling to watch. We only practice part catering and other fun announcements via Slack at present … and these folks have been mad they haven’t been “notified via formal communications.” It’s free cookies in the breakroom, Mark – we’re non going to send you a special e-mail just because you won’t join our Slack!
4. The reycling
A company I used to work in decided in an effort to be greener to introduce recycling bins at all sites. Four separate bins: drinking glass, tin, newspaper, general waste matter. There was such backlash! 1 guy even tried to commencement a mutiny; he didn’t want anyone to use them until we’d “received proper training.”. My dude, they’re bins with pictures on them! Put your paper in the bin that says paper with pictures of paper on the side. I could never understand the outrage that caused.
5. The free popcorn
Gratuitous Popcorn Monday being taken away. Well, not taken away but the person who’d popular it retired and despite many emails asking for others to volunteer to do it, no i signed up. Yet loud and numerous complaints about it would occur, and when you lot told them they could volunteer to pop it, they’d e’er have an alibi. I do feel gender did play into this as the complainers were exclusively male and the person who retired was a adult female.
6. Perfect WordPerfect
I worked for a big regime office where people would stay for xxx+ years. This meant I had colleagues who had started in 1985 and learned how to use computers while on the job. One in detail decided that WordPerfect was much meliorate than Word, and therefore that was the programme he would learn. In the 2010s, the role decided to officially remove WordPerfect from the organisation and force everyone to switch to Give-and-take (yes, 2010s – information technology was not but the employees who were averse to change). When the colleague found out almost this, he decided to refuse all updates and upgrades to his computer. Six months later, his computer was incredibly slow and failing to get-go half the time, but he refused to let It affect his calculator, and filed a grievance with the spousal relationship when our boss tried to force him. The end consequence was that he was allowed to proceed WordPerfect on his computer.
7. The oatmeal
Half dozen months into my showtime post-grad job (2007), the hospital cafeteria steps away from our offices changed the price of a cup of oatmeal from $.55 to $one.25. Nosotros were incensed: that’s a 227% increase! … to $1.25. The sense of injustice and outrage was incredible in our office: and so many conversations almost the price of oatmeal these days; laments nearly the old days when you lot could grab a decent breakfast with whatever change you may have institute in your desk-bound (who did that?!); They Just Can’t more-than-double the toll on annihilation like that; rumors started about all the doctors who probably filled their cups 2/three full of walnuts/other expensive oatmeal toppings and now nosotros’re paying for their dishonesty, etc. etc. for WEEKS.
Anyone who attempted to limited how horrible this was to anyone outside the role was soundly ridiculed, with adept reason. Even now I intellectually know this is ridiculous, and yet…
8. The meeting
I piece of work in It for an enormous organisation, so I have about 50 million stories like this from internal customers. One of the weirder ones that comes to listen, though, is from my team. I took over a team that had been effectually a long time when they were reorganized into my area. They had an exorbitant number of standing meetings, and they ALL attended ALL of them (a team of ~vii). I was trying to cutting downward on the team’southward meetings to complimentary up time for other work. I decided to pull nearly of the team out of this one particular coming together, and keep it to a select group of people. The people I pulled had no business reason to be there. Just when this was appear, you would accept thought I appear they were being fired. 2 people in item were very upset, and made it known that they actually wanted to be put back in the meeting. One of them literally loudly sang, “I want my [name of meeting]” to the tune of “I want my babe-back” (from the Chili’s commercials) over and over in a large team meeting.
I somewhen settled on “Ok, you are an optional attendee in this coming together. You can get if you have no pressing work, but this is your everyman priority.” They at present all attend that meeting every week once again, but like old times. It drives me a little crazy, but information technology was Not a Loma to Die On for me.
9. The pens
We had ACTUAL TANTRUMS and a petition (signed by well-nigh four people…) when we changed stationery suppliers and a particular brand of fine liner pen was no longer available.
10. The intranet redesign
We redesigned our intranet many years dorsum and people went MAD. The erstwhile site was built on the most un-user-friendly platform I’ve ever seen, and the homepage was this godawful list of random links (non kept current, and missing a lot of info so people couldn’t even do a search on the page to find what they needed). The navigation was nonsensical and outdated, then nigh of the links didn’t fifty-fifty work. The search function for the site didn’t even work anymore. At that place was no group of similar pages into sections; it was basically just a agglomeration of pages with completely outdated data in places that you couldn’t discover unless someone sent you lot the link they had bookmarked.
We built a new intranet using a more mod platform. The search worked, the homepage had more general info but however had some icons that linked to the most-used pages, in that location were split “sites” for different departments, and information technology no longer looked like something a teenager built in 1996. Hundreds of employees (out of several thousand) were furious at losing the old site. These were people that had been employed for decades and were aroused we would deign to update to something more than usable when they relied on a bunch of bookmarks in their browser (because even they knew the one-time site was unable to be navigated).
This was 10 years ago and people Yet complain. Just wait until we drift the intranet into a new platform side by side year…
11. The chairs
At a former workplace, it was decided that all the desk chairs would be replaced. The existing chairs came in 2 styles – a standard, green upholstered role desk chair, and and so for certain offices/people, an “executive” desk chair (these were nicer, with wooden handles and leather upholstery and such).
It is worth noting that the blueprint scheme of the building was rigorously adhered to in all things, so everything matched. All the woods furniture was the same wood tone. All the upholstered piece of furniture had to match. Y’all weren’t allowed to bring anything in without approving (and you rarely got approval).
And so the new chairs are ordered, and we are notified that they also have two options – they were both the aforementioned style, but one was just wider than the other.
Information technology caused an uproar the likes of which yous would not believe. The few people with executive desk chairs were wondering why they were not being given nicer chairs again and complained about that. Others just didn’t want to give up their existing chair (even though the chairs were over x years old at that bespeak). Passionate speeches were given in the breakroom near why people should be able to go along their former chairs. Meetings would be derailed with chair talk. It consumed people.
The day before the switch happened people were hiding chairs wherever they could. I went into the restroom and there was a chair sitting on top of a toilet in a stall. I had a vault in my office, and multiple people stopped by and asked if they could stash chairs in it.
The day the switch actually happened must take been the least productive day in the visitor history. People were going from suite-to-suite looking at other chairs (again, even though they were all the aforementioned color/fashion), people were gathering in the hallway to complain. Every time I passed an role window there was someone billowy up and down in their chair and complaining. People were filing complaints with Hour, a couple of people went home early on in protestation, some people that had stashed their erstwhile chairs pulled them dorsum out and were sitting in them again, which made other people upset so there was a lot of “Steve is sitting in an old chair! I but want my old chair back!” and then and then they would go and take Steve’s old chair and so Steve would be upset most that. I ended up leaving early on because I was just so tired of hearing about information technology.
12. The copier
When I used to volunteer to brand copies at my kid’s schoolhouse, the other parent volunteer who trained me was actually upset because i of the copiers had been turned to the side so that the paper was easier to load. It was the same auto, it was just turned 90° to the left. She kept proverb how sorry she was, similar it was some kind of embarrassing faux pas.
13. The pizza
I once got called in to my manager’s office because of pizza. Yup. I dared to suggest we order from a dissimilar identify. The chaos that caused was mind blowing. The person who usually placed the lodge freaked out because she “didn’t know how to order from the new place.” No one could make up their minds what they wanted. Everyone was upset because it wasn’t their usual identify so I got reprimanded for causing disruption. In my defense, the pizza from their usual identify tasted like ketchup flavored cardboard. Yeah, that place was toxic in more ways than one. I did non last long there.
14. The shoe
This i isn’t about dramatic responses to mundane changes; information technology’southward a quitting story. But it was in that thread and information technology must be shared.
A coworker (a manager at a large retail store) was walking to work and stepped in domestic dog poop.
He walked in, came upwardly to the register counter where we were opening tills for the mean solar day, put his soiled shoe on the counter, said “I quit.” and walked out just wearing ane shoe.
Retrieve the letter-writer whose sister’s employer who wanted friends and family to participate in 360 feedback reviews? Hither’due south the update.
Thank you for answering my question well-nigh filling out a 360 review for my sis. The letter was published on a mean solar day when I had spotty cell/wifi reception, then I couldn’t participate in the chat, but my sis and I read every single comment.
By the fourth dimension the letter was published, we agreed that her company was being inappropriate with its asking but couldn’t quite figure out why they fabricated the determination (my favorite hypothesis was that they got wowed by a sales pitch and didn’t critically think about how dumb the policy was). I as well decided I wasn’t going to reply to the survey, just part of me wanted to answer with family-related problems only to see if they put them in her performance review (“She’due south also alpine and so I can no longer borrow her clothes” “Mom e’er makes me aid cook for family become togethers- she gets to hang out and socialize” “She forgets that mom is terrible at keeping secrets and it messes upward family surprises”). I would have died of laughter if my sister had to put ‘cooking at family get-togethers’ every bit her yearly performance goal.
Afterwards, we had further discussions almost her visitor, which uncovered a myriad of concerns. To try to simplify things, let’s say she started as a generalist, merely worked very hard to attain certification in a very specific expanse (like starting in chocolate teapot product and becoming certified in making the teapot molds). She was promoted to supervisor of chocolate molds just wouldn’t tell her the pay—they claimed they needed to hire another person to be a mold admin. This hire did not accept certification and no experience in chocolate teapot molds but was still offered a salary 10k higher than my sisters. They did eventually raise her salary to lucifer his, but then decided that she shouldn’t accept the supervisor title, and substantially demoted her to being an admin (despite being the simply staff certified in molds with experience in the specific mold of the company).
My sister was conflicted near staying or leaving; she was hoping to make this task a long-term career, but the run-around eroded a lot of trust she had for the company. She institute some other company that was looking for someone certified in chocolate molds and was offered a job that had both the senior title and a hefty pay bump. When she resigned, apparently her quondam job was completely shocked that she would leave.
The visitor has not reached out to me to ask my opinion on my sisters’ resignation.